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Need a api to send bulk sms

cociucociu Member, Provider

Hello Let ,

we are working in a platform to send cheap sms worldline , so i need from you guys all company ho offer api for sending sms.

Many thanks

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  • Twilio

    Nexmo

    Plivo

    Be sure your SMS platform name ends with 'o'. It seems to be a requirement.

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  • ZappieZappie Member, Provider

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  • century1stopcentury1stop Member
    edited November 2015
  • Why are you paying to send SMS? Basically every carrier out there uses SIP URIs which double as emailable addresses to send and receive SMS.

    For example, you can email any of the addresses below and it'll be delivered as a SMS. MMS works too if you use each carriers published MMS gateway. The hard part is looking up what carrier the customer is on, you can do a CNAM lookup, or use EveryoneAPI or something like that, or you can just rely on public phone number allocation records (if you want to cheap out), but it may mean that you can't deliver texts to ported numbers.

    AT&T – [email protected]
    Verizon – [email protected]
    T-Mobile – [email protected]
    Sprint PCS - [email protected]
    Virgin Mobile – [email protected]
    US Cellular – [email protected]
    Boost - [email protected]
    
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  • AmitzAmitz Moderator

    @800calls
    That's interesting! What format is required for 'cellnumber'? I tried it with +CountryCodeCellnumber, but that did not work...

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  • @Amitz Just put in the cell number, all these are national or regional providers, so country code isn't needed. Note that the SMS gateways I listed are USA carriers, T-Mobile and Virgin Mobile in other countries has other SMS gateways.

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  • tomletomle Member
    edited November 2015

    Why are you paying to send SMS? Basically every carrier out there uses SIP URIs which double as emailable addresses to send and receive SMS.

    It's nice to see how the Americans think that the world works exactly like in the US. To my knowledge very few cell providers in EU do email to SMS.

    In Sweden email to SMS was closed down in the end of the 90s.

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  • @tomle Do a lookup with EveryoneAPI or another CNAM database that shows SMS Carrier info. Every carrier has to have a SMS and MMS gateway for SMS/MMS to work with other carriers, and tons of applications rely on SMS/MMS gateways.

    Xora and Telenav both have dispatch systems that are used all over Europe, Asia and North America, and they all use these gateways. Providers in Sweden may not advertise their gateways, but you can be sure they are there and working, or else SMS wouldn't work.

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  • @800calls said: tomle Do a lookup with EveryoneAPI or another CNAM database that shows SMS Carrier info. Every carrier has to have a SMS and MMS gateway for SMS/MMS to work with other carriers, and tons of applications rely on SMS/MMS gateways.

    Xora and Telenav both have dispatch systems that are used all over Europe, Asia and North America, and they all use these gateways. Providers in Sweden may not advertise their gateways, but you can be sure they are there and working, or else SMS wouldn't work.

    Sure, but they are not available to end users. So if I want to send SMS to users in Sweden I can't just go out and send an email and expect it to reach the user as an SMS. And that is what this thread is about.

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  • 800calls800calls Member
    edited November 2015

    SMS/MMS gateways are definitely available to end users, but the provider may not make them easy to find. Once found you can send an email and have it arrive as an SMS (or MMS if you use a MMS gateway address).

    Edit: Here is a list with providers from all over, I even see one from Sweden. All are verified working, note that this list isn't comprehensive of course.

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  • In Sri Lanka, all providers has dropped their email2sms support a while back. We're using our own hardware platform to deliver SMS. (Arduino based system, easy to setup)

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  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Provider

    https://www.clickatell.com/ is good too. We use it and I can recommend it.

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  • cociucociu Member, Provider
    edited November 2015

    @Clouvider thanks , i used now clickatel but need some more options because we need to set a campain of 10 000 000 sms

    the problem is i want to find many api to select for each country the most cheap sms

  • Uhh, unsolicited SMS campaigns like that can get you and your upstream carrier (Clickatel, Twilio, etc) in significant trouble, especially if your sending 10,000,000 SMS. I know most cellular companies would pursue remediation for spam like that.

  • @sdglhm They may have changed the SMS gateway URL, but I highly doubt that a wireless carrier would completely disable their SMS gateway, if they did, business and government customers would get extremely angry (and cancel service en masse), as they are the prime users of SMS gateways.

  • 800calls said: They may have changed the SMS gateway URL, but I highly doubt that a wireless carrier would completely disable their SMS gateway

    Yes. Also there are some f**king things like this. Eg: Dialog provides email2sms facility. If you need to send someone an SMS via email, we can use [email protected] email. But in order to receive the email. Receiver needs to activate some package called Pocket office. (3LKR/day)

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  • I'd recommend Nexmo as I've been using them for a long time with no problems at all.

  • 800calls said: They may have changed the SMS gateway URL, but I highly doubt that a wireless carrier would completely disable their SMS gateway

    You seem to have no idea how SMS works. Yes, all providers have gateways to exchange traffic. They are not required to make them generally available (for free or otherwise) by email or any other means in order for SMS to be possible.

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  • cociu said: we need to set a campain of 10 000 000 sms

    Wow, you guys are into mass sms spamming?

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  • cociucociu Member, Provider

    2bb3 said: Wow, you guys are into mass sms spamming?

    we put the platform for a big client. so i dont thinck you can call us sammers

  • @800calls said: sdglhm They may have changed the SMS gateway URL, but I highly doubt that a wireless carrier would completely disable their SMS gateway, if they did, business and government customers would get extremely angry (and cancel service en masse), as they are the prime users of SMS gateways.

    Three and Virgin Media in the UK don't have a free or paid email gateway last time I asked, but they do have commercial products for mass marketing but I don't think it's suitable here

  • joepie91joepie91 Member, Provider

    800calls said: Edit: Here is a list with providers from all over, I even see one from Sweden. All are verified working, note that this list isn't comprehensive of course.

    This list is ancient. Dutchtone/Orange haven't existed for probably a decade? It's missing a lot of Dutch providers as well.

  • tehdantehdan Member
    edited November 2015

    @cociu said: we put the platform for a big client. so i dont thinck you can call us sammers

    Spam-enablers?

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  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    800calls said: Why are you paying to send SMS? Basically every carrier out there uses SIP URIs which double as emailable addresses to send and receive SMS.

    In US, maybe. In EU/Asia this is very rare.

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  • @sdglhm Ah, yeah, AT&T always tried to push Business Messaging when configuring anything that used their SMS gateways, it gave you priority on AT&T's towers in crowded/overloaded situation (which did seem to work), and allowed you to go beyond 160 chars (which I never found to be useful).

    @tehdan said: Yes, all providers have gateways to exchange traffic. They are not required to make them generally available (for free or otherwise) by email

    Providers aren't required to make their SMS gateways accessible, but if they don't they'll have to whitelist every little rinky dink CLEC, MVNO, SMS provider, and wireless provider. There are still people boarded on "Blue" (OG AT&T) and "Orange" (OG Cingular) on AT&T, and Sprint still has customers that have SMS addresses with Nextel SMSC addresses. Nearly every wireless carrier has at least a half dozen or more SMS gateways from mergers and acquisitions, hence why I recommended just doing a lookup via any one of the many databases that'll tell you the SMS and MMS URIs.

    @cociu, have the users your texting asked to receive the texts?

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited November 2015

    800calls said: and allowed you to go beyond 160 chars (which I never found to be useful)

    In a single message? My old Nokias did not accept that, they only did show a part then - probably why no one ever used that feature.

  • @William said: In a single message? My old Nokias did not accept that, they only did show a part then - probably why no one ever used that feature.

    Eh, messages over 160 chars definitely worked on the $0.99 Sonim XP1520's and low end Rugby Pros that were super popular with businesses, but if you want that just use MMS. The only real reason to pay the $3/month premium for it was priority on the tower, so when your at a sports game with 20K other people, your texting will work reliably (or at least better).

    @William said: Not really relevant, SMS spamming is grey area in Europe - Not exactly illegal but not exactly legal either.

    Huh, I know Sprint and Verizon always used to get pissy about it, to the point of subpoenaing the sender who blasted out a ton of unsolicited texts. They viewed it like robocalling cellphones, which isn't something they encourage here.

  • tehdantehdan Member
    edited November 2015

    @800calls said: but if they don't they'll have to whitelist every little rinky dink CLEC, MVNO, SMS provider, and wireless provider

    Yup, that's how they do it. Where you're seeing whitelist related headaches, telcos see the chance to make profit.

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    800calls said: Huh, I know Sprint and Verizon always used to get pissy about it

    Sprint/Verizon are US based, IIRC SMS spamming is also not illegal in the US, they just get pissed and block/cancel the gateway it comes from. In EU the same happens, but certain ISPs (cough TMobile) are happy to sell you excellent SMS routes to nearly anyone without much fuss about what you send, and the other ISPs can obviously not just decline all SMS from TMobile Germany/Austria etc.

  • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

    800calls said: Basically every carrier out there

    US carriers. Telcel charges for that service and Movistar... well, it is movistar

  • William said: In a single message? My old Nokias did not accept that, they only did show a part then - probably why no one ever used that feature.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concatenated_SMS

  • LordSpockLordSpock Member, Provider

    I use TextMarketer for UK SMS, they do some good deals for bulk.

  • edited March 2016

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  • @yaniksilvar said: This might work. http://www.bulksms.com/products/sms-api.htm

    developer.bulksms.com

    They are in the process of implementing a new json api aswel if the features on the current api doesn't suffice.

  • @ErnieSpace said: They are in the process of implementing a new json api aswel if the features on the current api doesn't suffice.

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  • akash25pakash25p Member
    edited March 13

    Try Alcodes, its a SPAMMY PIECE OF SHIT , you will definitely be disappointed by it.

    They will also murder you wife and fuck your dog.

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  • teamaccteamacc Moderator

    I'll keep this thing open as a honeypot for future bulk sms providers to spam and banhammer.

    Lets see if there's anyone stupid enough to comment their link below this comment.

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  • bapbap Member

    Love nexmo free inbound and outbound pricing :)

  • ricardoricardo Member

    ahh Linuxthefish, he was a smart poster. Wonder what he got banned for.

  • raindog308raindog308 Moderator

    I can contribute something non-spammy..

    I've been using twilio to have some repurposed Amazon Dash buttons send SMS messages. Yes, you can use [email protected] but not for MMS (I don't think) and I wanted to send images.

    Twilio is pretty cheap...the $20 I deposited should last me a couple years at the rate I use it.

    I think there are also APIs for consuming messages as well.

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  • trnjtrnj Member

    @raindog308 said: Twilio

    I used both Twilio and Plivo, send a lot of sms every day. Plivo is cheaper and better.

    Twilio does not deliver to some phone numbers (unlike Plivo). But their deliverability a bit better in some countries.

  • trnj said: Plivo is cheaper and better.

    Cheaper, yes. Better, depends if throttling of your SMS is OK. They now throttle all outbound SMS based on the origin and destination numbers. For us, uptime alerts are too important and throttling is unacceptable so we stay away from Plivo as much as possible.

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  • trnjtrnj Member

    @NodePing said: Cheaper, yes. Better, depends if throttling of your SMS is OK.

    Most of my clients are based in Dubai, so it is 2x cheaper than Twilio. Money is nothing, invest or die, so when I switched to Twilio for better deliverability, I saw a lot of undelivered messages.

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